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Orienteering Maps for the People!

Holy O-maps, batman: check out the Rocky Mountain Orienteering Club (RMOC)'s master meta-map.  It shows all the orienteering maps in the Rocky Mountain area and has links to the real orienteering map and courses!  I spoke with the RMOC leadership over Christmas (I was visiting family out in Denver) and commented that there was no repository for this kind of info; they said they had been considering some sort of public portal for o-maps and  . . . 7 months later, they've got an awesome resource for Denver area orienteers.  Way to go RMOC!  Next time I'm out there I will certainly be checking some of these places out.  I should probably sign on as a RMOC member just to support all their good work!

Too bad Denver is a 4+ hour plane ride away.

Closer to home, I remember talking with some Quantico Orienteering Club (QOC) leadership this winter and they didn't sound very interested in sharing their maps online in this fashion.  The maps represent a lot of intellectual capital and are a valuable resource for the club; the QOC tightly controls who has a copy of the QOC maps. 

Is there really a black market of orienteers itching to print boot-leg copies of a JPG showing the o-maps in the Washington DC area? 

I understand where the QOC is coming from, and I respect all their hard work, but maybe paying members of the QOC could get access to the kind of resource the RMOC has developed. 

Heck, I'll even volunteer to do the web page showcasing the QOC maps and do any other leg work.  Maybe they need to go to a "pay per copy" model where you can order the maps online and get them emailed to you (or, gasp, snail mailed if they're worried about digital duplication . . . but high quality scanners are easy to come by so even a hard copy isn't safe from duplication).  Again, I'll volunteer to put that sort of thing together for them.

On a related note, the local orienteering advocates at Encompass-Adventure just circulated an interesting link showing the same terrain on a USGS topo map vs a "true" orienteering map.  The differences are significant and represent a lot of painstaking work by some orienteering mappers.  I know Shawn Callahan (of Encompass) put in some hard work on the New Quarter Park O-map we used at the Rogaine a few weeks back; thanks again Shawn! 

Maybe we'll start the Orienteering Hampton Roads O-Map repository with the New Quarter map when Shawn finishes it?



Comments

Greg Lennon said:

Grant,

Be careful with what you offer - we just might try to take you up on it! I too think that what RMOC has done is exemplary in many ways, and I am interesting in hearing how other readers of your blog (and the A-racing community) feel about this. It would be great to hear ideas for how to make this as useful as possible, and what prices seem reasonable to charge for either digital or printed O'maps.

3 Cheers for mashups,

Greg (as in Greg Lennon, QOC co-Prez)
# July 18, 2006 5:34 PM

Eric - Richmond ASR said:

I'd love to have O-Maps online. I'd be willing to help a little myself although my skillset isn't a good as Grant's when it comes to web development. ;-)

Greg, would QOC be interested in setting up a permanent O-course at Pocahontas? The rangers have asked about it during the Friends meetings. I'd also volunteer to get that ball rolling.

Thanks,
Eric
# July 18, 2006 11:02 PM

Kevin - Bighead Crew said:

I agree that this is a great idea and I'd sign up for it in a heartbeat.  That would be an extremely nice resource to have in the area.  I think something like this could even be the push many people need to get into the sport (maybe I'm just a sucker for maps).

Needless to say, I'd love to help with this in any way possible.
# July 19, 2006 1:12 AM

Jim Weber said:

I'd agree that having local O-maps available online would be great. I am a bigtime saver/studier/re-user of maps, and since the QOC maps are not available online today, I have saved the maps from every O-Meet (and every AR) I have ever done, for future personal use. That way, if I ever want to go back out on my own and do some O-training in a park where I have done a meet, I have the map available. Local park maps or bike trails maps are just not very useful for orienteering practice, and standard USGS maps are on too large a scale (and not enough detail) to be very useful for a short orienteering practice session (at least in my humble opinion!). Having easy access to real O-maps would also make it easier for people to train on their own, and would make it easier for racers to set up local "diets" (AR training races) that include a real orienteering section...which I think would also help more people get into the sport or AR as well as orienteering.
# July 19, 2006 11:52 AM

Mnewlon said:

Grant 0 in light of all these other educated and well written comments.......all I can say is you're a pinko commie..........
# July 20, 2006 10:53 AM

Shawn said:

I agree. It'd be great to have access to some o-maps online and even some sort of quarterly orienteering challenge. It'd make orienteering more accessiable to people, be great training. Paying for a single copy, good idea.

But, as Grant said, making orienteering maps is a big investment for the people/clubs making them (several 100's of hours of work and/or lots of money, $1,000s, for the best maps). So we have to repay that investment, fairly.
# July 24, 2006 1:09 PM

MNewlon said:

Yeppers - that'd be that "intellectual capital" pinko Grant was talking about.  
# July 26, 2006 4:15 PM
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